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gross. im and i man and i think thats gross.

im quite the liberal, and i do like michael moore, but i think that you should all just shut up. all of you. im trying to pass time so i can go to sleep so i read this whole thing after working all day and you just need to shut up.

btw. JELLO BIAFRA FOR PRESIDENT!
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You are a good punk rocker
You are a singing maniac
You can really sing your ass off up the mic
You are a good person

Jello Biafra
Jello Biafra
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You are a rock and roller
You used to be the lead singer of the Dead Kennedys
You sing for the band Lard
Keep on whipping it up


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You are so friendly in the mix
You are my great man on the right
You are a good person from the South
I like it a lot, my man, and I will award you

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hell yea dude
dead kennedys are fucking badass
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wjfskate wrote:Lack of education. Also, if you didn't see negativity in that letter you are a fucking moron.
I think its more Critcism and sarcasm, but i guess if you mix the to together it could come off as Negativity.
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What I find astonishing is the almost immediate response from Bush Bashers to blame everything that happened, from the actual hurricane itself, to the anarchy that quickly erupted, on the President and his administration. When they do so, they not only distort the truth, they outright lie to the public, and they are doing so daily through any media venue that will give them the opportunity.

Lie #1: President Bush doesn't care about the people of New Orleans.

This outrageous lie is thoroughly debunked by the fact that it was President Bush who pushed for a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans.(1) Governor Blanco issued only a voluntary evacuation order, but admitted that she received a call from the President on August 27, 2005, urging her to make it a mandatory one. He wanted as many people as possible out of the path of the storm.

So much for the President not caring.

According to a Washington Post report on Sunday, September 4, "Shortly before midnight Friday [August 26], the Bush administration sent her a proposed legal memorandum asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, a source within the state's emergency operations center said Saturday."

Bush's offer to have the federal government aid in the evacuation was rejected. (2)

Despite the fact that New Orlean's own Emergency Response Guidelines call for a mandatory evacuation of the City if a strike by a Category 3 Hurricane is projected, with 72 hours advance notice to all residents, Mayor Nagin didn't order a mandatory evaluation until Sunday. Further, he only did so after Max Maxfield, the National Hurricane Director, called Nagin at his home to plead that he empty the City. (3)

Why did Nagin wait so long? He was worried about the legalities. If people want to affix blame, perhaps they can look at lawyers.

How ironic, that The Drudge Report (4) and Free Republic (5) have pictures of dozens of New Orleans' submerged and now useless school buses, buses that could have been used to transport residents out of the City prior to the storm, bring in supplies after the storm, and help evacuees escape the flooding. Meanwhile, Governor Blanco issued a request to the State of Louisiana to provide her with buses from local school districts.

Lie #2: The Bush Administration was slow in coordinating help.

Mike Brown, Under Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security for Emergency Response and Preparedness, received the order from President Bush on August 27, two full days before the storm hit the region, to prepare for Katrina disaster relief. (6) The President also declared the entire region under a State of Emergency, so that FEMA could coordinate efforts at the request of the Governors. (7) Under the Emergency Management Assistance Compact, the Federal Government and FEMA are not allowed to interfere with local operations unless they are authorized by state and local leaders.

Blanco did not authorize this until September 1, 2005.

Further, according to an Association Press report on August 30, "The federal government began rushing baby formula, communications equipment, generators, water and ice into hard-hit areas of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama, along with doctors, nurses and first-aid supplies. The U.S. Defense Department sent experts to help with search-and-rescue operations." (8 ) FEMA was there and helping, in the capacity that was allowed by local officials, but could not swing into full gear until after Blanco gave them permission.

Lie #3: The Bush Administration did nothing to control the anarchy.

The local and state governments have control over law enforcement activities in their state, and such activities could only be coordinated through the federal government with their permission. On August 26, the Bush Administration offered to do just that. "The administration sought unified control over all local police and state National Guard units reporting to the governor. Louisiana officials rejected the request after talks throughout the night, concerned that such a move would be comparable to a federal declaration of martial law." (9)

It was not until terrible reports of rapes and violence, videos of looting, and reports of shoots being fired at rescue workers did Governor Blanco relinquish any claim of control on an out-of-control city.

She did this on September 1, under Executive Order #KBB-2005-23. (10) Almost immediately thereafter, FEMA and the Bush Administration began to restore order.

Lie #4: The Bush Administration did nothing to prevent the flooding.

Predictions of wide spread devastation have been known since Hurricane Camille in 1969. Despite these, it was local officials who reportedly appropriated funds designated for levee improvements towards such necessary purchases as a casino, hotel, and other projects.

Amazing, isn't it? From the carnage inside the Superdome, to the massacre of the truth on television, this is a sad time for all of America.

Just don't forget who helped all this to happen….because despite what the media wants you to believe, it wasn't President Bush.

Linda Prussen-Razzano is frequent contributor to Enter Stage Right and a number of other online magazines.

Footnotes

1. Associated Press, "Mandatory Evacuation Ordered for New Orleans," August 28, 2005, 10:48 a.m. CT.

2. Washington Post, "Many Evacuated, but Thousands Still Waiting, White House Shifts Blame to State and Local Officials," Manuel Roig-Franzia and Spencer Hsu, Washington Post Staff Writers, Sunday, September 4, 2005; Page A01

3. Knight Ridder Newspapers, "National Hurricane Director had to call Nagin at home Saturday night to plead: "Get people out..." by Marc Caputo, David Ovalle, and Erika Bolstad, August 28, 2005

4. http://www.drudgereport.com

5. http://www.freerepublic.com

6. FEMA Press Release, "Emergency Aid Authorized For Katrina Emergency Response In LA" August 27, 2005

7. Associated Press, "Bush Declares Emergency in Louisiana," August 27, 2005

8. Associated Press, "Federal Government sent emergency supplies to Louisiana as early as Tuesday," August 30, 2005

9. Ibid, Washington Post, September 4, 2005

10. Office of the Governor Press Release, Baton Rouge, LA, "Governor Blanco Announces Executive Orders," September 1, 2005
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george bush doesn't care about black people
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Bush was at ground zero on 9/11 speaking and shit, why wasnt he at the superdome at anytime after katrina (besides chekcing out how fucked up NOLA was in a chopper). Weird. :(
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we've been trying to build better levees since BETSY in 1965, not camille. we've stressed the living piss out of this fact: "If New Orleans was hit by a Catergory 3 or higher Hurricane, New Orleans would sink." Senator Landrueiu proposed 80 million dollars at least 3 times since Bush has been in office to fix our levees, and he denied all three times. In fact, he suggested 30 million, LESS THAN HALF of what we've been trying to get. And the whole anarchy situation...you've got tons of troops half a world away and less than that in your own country, do the math. And the military is saying "we had no way to get there" BULLSHIT, you have helicopters and boats and trucks that are higher than 60% of the flooding in the state you can get through to the city.

It was poorly orchestrated, not only by our state government, but Georgie-boy as well.

Oh yeah, and FEMA is a piece of shit. We were denied today "insufficient loses" MY HOUSE IN UNDER 13 FEET OF WATER, HOW SUFFICIENT IS THAT?!
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I thought Bush has never truned down a bill that involved spending money? Maybe he wanted the state to pay for it. I know that one fifth of everything that comes into this country comes through the port. so you would think they (government) would want to protect the city.
So its come to this?
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Oh yeah, and FEMA is a piece of shit. We were denied today "insufficient loses" MY HOUSE IN UNDER 13 FEET OF WATER, HOW SUFFICIENT IS THAT?!
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Spookie Apperitions wrote:Bush was at ground zero on 9/11 speaking and shit, why wasnt he at the superdome at anytime after katrina (besides chekcing out how fucked up NOLA was in a chopper). Weird. :(
Ummm, you might want to read that statement you just made. Not making any since if you've been watching the news out of New Orleans about the Superdome.
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chev311e wrote:
Spookie Apperitions wrote:Bush was at ground zero on 9/11 speaking and shit, why wasnt he at the superdome at anytime after katrina (besides chekcing out how fucked up NOLA was in a chopper). Weird. :(
Ummm, you might want to read that statement you just made. Not making any since if you've been watching the news out of New Orleans about the Superdome.
Well i have a good idea ground zero was in pretty bad shape after 9-11 yet bush went to try to instill hope in the people, its not very uplifting knowing your leader cant say a few words to thousands of people depending on the government. i dont care how bad the conditions are in hte dome, he stillcould have gone and said something. fuck
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I HATE MICHEAL Moore, someone should take him to africa to feed the starving ethiopian children and he can tell them his stories, and tall tales.
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Michael moore is a badass. spoken. 8)
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antfarm311 wrote:we've been trying to build better levees since BETSY in 1965, not camille. we've stressed the living piss out of this fact: "If New Orleans was hit by a Catergory 3 or higher Hurricane, New Orleans would sink." Senator Landrueiu proposed 80 million dollars at least 3 times since Bush has been in office to fix our levees, and he denied all three times. In fact, he suggested 30 million, LESS THAN HALF of what we've been trying to get. And the whole anarchy situation...you've got tons of troops half a world away and less than that in your own country, do the math. And the military is saying "we had no way to get there" BULLSHIT, you have helicopters and boats and trucks that are higher than 60% of the flooding in the state you can get through to the city.

It was poorly orchestrated, not only by our state government, but Georgie-boy as well.

Oh yeah, and FEMA is a piece of shit. We were denied today "insufficient loses" MY HOUSE IN UNDER 13 FEET OF WATER, HOW SUFFICIENT IS THAT?!
That's exactly what I would say if I was a resident in New Orleans.

Bush is putting blame on the FEMA director to save himself.

Bush is going to be impeached.
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CollapsingVisionary wrote:^element hugs boys. :oops:

I do too. *hug for Ant*
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